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		<title>By: Glynn Wilson</title>
		<link>http://blog.locustfork.net/2009/07/spinmaster-karl-rove-at-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3218</link>
		<dc:creator>Glynn Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: The LA Times reporter was contacted by several members of the Pam Miles List about this last paragraph, but so far, he has only said he will be out of the country for two weeks.

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There were few, if any, disclosures in Rove&#039;s e-mails or his interviews with the newspapers. For the most part, Rove said, as the White House did earlier, that he was providing political guidance about larger policy issues and was interested in helping put the best people into prosecutor positions that were either already open or about to become open.
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We are not sure why this conclusion is drawn, since even the NYTimes and the Post acknowledge significant disclosures. Guess the LA times is mad they were excluded from access to Rove in this instance.

I e-mailed him twice and got no response. Guess since I am in Alabama I don&#039;t count.

If you want to ask him how he draws such an erroneous conclusion, here&#039;s his e-mail address:

josh.meyer@latimes.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: The LA Times reporter was contacted by several members of the Pam Miles List about this last paragraph, but so far, he has only said he will be out of the country for two weeks.</p>
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There were few, if any, disclosures in Rove&#8217;s e-mails or his interviews with the newspapers. For the most part, Rove said, as the White House did earlier, that he was providing political guidance about larger policy issues and was interested in helping put the best people into prosecutor positions that were either already open or about to become open.
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<p>We are not sure why this conclusion is drawn, since even the NYTimes and the Post acknowledge significant disclosures. Guess the LA times is mad they were excluded from access to Rove in this instance.</p>
<p>I e-mailed him twice and got no response. Guess since I am in Alabama I don&#8217;t count.</p>
<p>If you want to ask him how he draws such an erroneous conclusion, here&#8217;s his e-mail address:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:josh.meyer@latimes.com">josh.meyer@latimes.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Glynn Wilson</title>
		<link>http://blog.locustfork.net/2009/07/spinmaster-karl-rove-at-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3217</link>
		<dc:creator>Glynn Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just in from the LA Times. My headline is better...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-rove31-2009jul31,0,3493080.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rove Declares Innocence in U.S. Attorney Firings, Dems Cry Foul Play&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just in from the LA Times. My headline is better&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-rove31-2009jul31,0,3493080.story" rel="nofollow">Rove Declares Innocence in U.S. Attorney Firings, Dems Cry Foul Play</a></p>
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		<title>By: Glynn Wilson</title>
		<link>http://blog.locustfork.net/2009/07/spinmaster-karl-rove-at-it-again/comment-page-1/#comment-3216</link>
		<dc:creator>Glynn Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I analyze this Rove leak business, it is obvious that the &lt;em&gt;Washington Post&lt;/em&gt; was totally played because they simply have no one on staff who has followed all these stories from the beginning. The headline itself is naive or misleading.

A &quot;Heavier Hand in Prosecutor Firings Than Previously Known?&quot;

No one at the &lt;em&gt;Post&lt;/em&gt; has been following our coverage for the past two years, or even the coverage at &lt;em&gt;Harper&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; magazine. Newspaper reporters typically use the paper&#039;s own archives for background when researching a story, and the only stories the &lt;em&gt;Post&lt;/em&gt; has run to date on the Siegelman case were from Bob Johnson at the Alabama bureau of AP. Everyone of those stories contained the exact same background phrase saying Siegelman and Scrushy were &quot;convicted by a jury of their peers.&quot;

Apparently, no one at the Associated Press has covered enough court to know that judges have a tremendous amount of power to influence the outcome of a case. In this case, the judge forced an obviously hung jury to reach a verdict with what we in the press sometimes call a &quot;dynamite charge.&quot; Then, when it was discovered that jurors were reading news coverage online and e-mailing each other about the case -- a clear violation of the jury&#039;s charge in any court in the land -- he white-washed juror misconduct with only the pretense of an investigation.

So as the real &quot;watchdog press&quot; around here, we say he was convicted by a corrupt Republican judge -- not a jury of his peers.

But the &lt;em&gt;Washington Post&lt;/em&gt; would rather have &quot;access&quot; to guys like Rove than challenge his spin in print.

&lt;em&gt;The New York Times&lt;/em&gt; story is not much better. The headline says, &quot;Rove Says His Role in Prosecutor Firings Was Small,&quot; then goes on to quote from e-mail messages showing full well that Rove was directing the action at Justice from the West Wing. What more proof do investigators need?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I analyze this Rove leak business, it is obvious that the <em>Washington Post</em> was totally played because they simply have no one on staff who has followed all these stories from the beginning. The headline itself is naive or misleading.</p>
<p>A &#8220;Heavier Hand in Prosecutor Firings Than Previously Known?&#8221;</p>
<p>No one at the <em>Post</em> has been following our coverage for the past two years, or even the coverage at <em>Harper&#8217;s</em> magazine. Newspaper reporters typically use the paper&#8217;s own archives for background when researching a story, and the only stories the <em>Post</em> has run to date on the Siegelman case were from Bob Johnson at the Alabama bureau of AP. Everyone of those stories contained the exact same background phrase saying Siegelman and Scrushy were &#8220;convicted by a jury of their peers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently, no one at the Associated Press has covered enough court to know that judges have a tremendous amount of power to influence the outcome of a case. In this case, the judge forced an obviously hung jury to reach a verdict with what we in the press sometimes call a &#8220;dynamite charge.&#8221; Then, when it was discovered that jurors were reading news coverage online and e-mailing each other about the case &#8212; a clear violation of the jury&#8217;s charge in any court in the land &#8212; he white-washed juror misconduct with only the pretense of an investigation.</p>
<p>So as the real &#8220;watchdog press&#8221; around here, we say he was convicted by a corrupt Republican judge &#8212; not a jury of his peers.</p>
<p>But the <em>Washington Post</em> would rather have &#8220;access&#8221; to guys like Rove than challenge his spin in print.</p>
<p><em>The New York Times</em> story is not much better. The headline says, &#8220;Rove Says His Role in Prosecutor Firings Was Small,&#8221; then goes on to quote from e-mail messages showing full well that Rove was directing the action at Justice from the West Wing. What more proof do investigators need?</p>
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		<title>By: Glynn Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glynn Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if we had granted the pending request from some in Texas and Alaska to secede from the union, we would not have had to deal with Bush, the worst president ever. And we would not have to worry about Sarah Palin anymore either : )

Funny that much of the opposition to health care reform is coming from Southern conservatives, whose constituents could use some health care coverage the most. Politicians do not represent constituents. They represent the corporations who give them all their campaign money.

Unfortunately, after eight years of Bush, they have ALL the money now.

I say we make that movie to get Saddam&#039;s gold back from the Bush ranch in Paraguay, and use the money get rid of the last of the Southern conservatives in Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if we had granted the pending request from some in Texas and Alaska to secede from the union, we would not have had to deal with Bush, the worst president ever. And we would not have to worry about Sarah Palin anymore either : )</p>
<p>Funny that much of the opposition to health care reform is coming from Southern conservatives, whose constituents could use some health care coverage the most. Politicians do not represent constituents. They represent the corporations who give them all their campaign money.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, after eight years of Bush, they have ALL the money now.</p>
<p>I say we make that movie to get Saddam&#8217;s gold back from the Bush ranch in Paraguay, and use the money get rid of the last of the Southern conservatives in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Robby Scott Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robby Scott Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 23:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I wish the South would seceede again, but only if they give me a bus ticket to Massachusetts where they have government sponsored health care. The GOP is The Confederate States Government, temporarily out of power, and Senator Jeff Sessions is The Confederate President in waiting.  Getting these George W. Bush Texans and the other Southern GOP leaders out of The US Government could only help our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I wish the South would seceede again, but only if they give me a bus ticket to Massachusetts where they have government sponsored health care. The GOP is The Confederate States Government, temporarily out of power, and Senator Jeff Sessions is The Confederate President in waiting.  Getting these George W. Bush Texans and the other Southern GOP leaders out of The US Government could only help our country.</p>
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