What Karl Rove Knew When

August 1st, 2005

Time magazine is now reporting that Bush’s chief political and policy advisor Karl Rove most likely learned of C.I.A. agent Valerie Plame Wilson’s name from within the administration, not reporters as he testified, and prior her husband Joe Wilson’s Op/Ed piece in the New York Times saying there was no evidence of Nigerian yellow-cake being sold to Saddam Hussein in Iraq, which contradicts his previous testimony.

The worm turns, as they say, on Mr. Rove, perhaps the most vicious political retributionist in American History. His problem is a thing called Karma, and as it often does, returns ten-fold the evil a person perpetrates, or the good. As a number of our readers have pointed out in the past, it is hard to find the good these people have done for their world with all their power. If you work only evil, and you get a second term in the White House, history shows that the pendulum swings and the powerful take the heat and feel the consequences.

The problem for the people, however, is that the Bush crowd has amassed more power than any leaders certainly in American History, if not World History. Would someone in the press or the blogosphere seize a historian to comment on this?

Or, dear readers, what say ye?

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2 Responses to “What Karl Rove Knew When”

  1. John Lee Says:

    Could Bush already be indicted in Rovegate?

    by Mark Arsenault
    Daily Kos
    Jul 16th, 2005

    In 1974, Nixon was secretly indicted as a co-conspirator in Watergate. I’m not a lawyer or anything, and I’m just speculating, but is it possible that Bush himself could already be indicted in the Valarie Plame case without the public’s knowledge?

    According to the Legal Information Institute, Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, III., Rule 6 (4): Sealed Indictment.

    The magistrate judge to whom an indictment is returned may direct that the indictment be kept secret until the defendant is in custody or has been released pending trial. The clerk must then seal the indictment, and no person may disclose the indictments existence except as necessary to issue or execute a warrant or summons.”

    Do any kos lawyers out there know more about this and the likelyhood of this happening in this case, or know why it was done in the Watergate case? I supppose it is a matter of national security?

    It would be a nice suprise to one day hear that Bush had been convicted before we even knew he was indicted.

    Comment by John Lee, Pirate News TV: President Bill Clinton-Blythe IV was subpoenaed to Arkansas grand jury while he was president, and was “indicted” for impeachment by House of Representatives, but won his trial in US Senate. VP Spiro Agnew was convicted of felonies while he was VP, and resigned as VP. There is no Soverign Immunity for individuals employed by government when they perp crimes, which is always classified as actions “in their individual capacity”.

    BUSH AND CHENEY INDICTED!

    A Chicago grand jury has indicted the President and Vice-President of the United States along with multiple high officials in the Bush administration

    TomFlocco.com
    August 2, 2005

    Chicago — U.S. federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s Chicago grand jury has issued perjury and obstruction of justice indictments to the following members of the Bush Administration: President George W. Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney, Bush Chief of Staff Andrew Card, Cheney Chief of Staff I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, imprisoned New York Times reporter Judith Miller and former Senior Cheney advisor Mary Matalin.

    There were no indications given as to whether the President and his top staff members would appear publicly before cameras at the grand jury proceedings, given the gravity of the charges.

    Besides the Valerie Plame CIA leak case, the Fitzgerald probe is reportedly far-reaching and expanding much deeper into past White House criminal acts involving Bush-Clinton drug money laundering in Mena, Arkansas to White House involvement in 9.11; but also for sending America’s young people to their deaths or to be maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan under false pretenses.

    British Prime Minister Tony Blair was indicted for obstruction of justice and is reportedly consulting with members of Parliament and legal aides regarding how to avoid appearing in the U.S.A. for interrogation before Fitzgerald in Chicago.

    The revelations emanated from sources close to the grand jury who spoke with federal whistleblower Thomas Heneghen in California who said White House Senior Advisor to the President Karl Rove was also indicted for perjury and was reportedly involved with Mary Matalin in a major Bush administration document shredding operation to cover-up evidence.

    Heneghen had reported over ten days ago on a TruthRadio.com broadcast that his sources close to the grand jury said former Secretary of State Colin Powell had been subpoenaed and had testified against President Bush, telling the citizen panel that the President had taken the United States to war based upon lies–a capital crime involving treason under the United States Code.

    Heneghen also reported a week ago that Gonzalez and Card had been subpoened and that Tony Blair had defied his subpoena after the response time limit had expired.

    Sources close to the investigation report that members of the House, Senate, 9.11 Commission and other members of the media are also under investigation as potential targets by a grand jury regarding obstruction of justice and other oversight failures linked to the 9.11 attacks–indicating that citizen panelists working with Fitzgerald may be seeking a wholesale cleansing of what many have said is a crime-wracked White House and Congress.

    Also last Monday, the whistleblower reported that Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts was planning to obstruct justice by calling Fitzgerald for Senate hearings to question the prosecutor’s motives for the far-reaching investigation.

    This, giving rise to questions as to whether Roberts and other Republican legislators–some now under secret investigation–would join President Bush in seeking to fire Fitzgerald in the same manner that President Nixon had fired Watergate Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox in order to obstruct justice and cut off further investigations into White House crimes.

    Two weeks ago Heneghen said he had talked to sources just ten minutes prior to French and U.S. intelligence agents intercepting British intelligence agents who were attempting to bomb the subway underneath the Dirksen Federal Building where Fitzgerald was presiding over grand jury hearings.

    Serious questions can also be raised as to whether intelligence forces linked to President Bush and Tony Blair had participated in a failed attempt to scuttle the Fitzgerald probe by literally blowing it up–at a time when UK reports reveal that military-grade explosives were used to blow up the London subway on July 7.

    Sources say the alleged Chicago subway bombing attempt has been attributed to an underground and closeted enmity involving warring intelligence and military factions within the United States government.

    Moreover, reports indicate that the disturbance occurred at the same time that the Chicago Tribune and local web blogs had reported that the subway had been evacuated for 45-50 minutes regarding a “suspicious package” late on Monday afternoon, July 18. [It's reported on GCNlive.com and Infowars.com radio that Chicago police gunned down and killed 4 British MI6 agents for planting "terrorist" bombs. -JL]

    Also confirming the under-the-radar-screen hostilities involving agents loyal to the administration and others who are disturbed about the cover-up of government involvement in the 9.11 attacks was a recent contact made with this writer by a major New York media outlet which called seeking “names of those who could confirm its own reports of warring factions within the government which were threatening the safety of U.S. citizens.”

    Developing story…..please link or copy–and distribute widely.

  2. John Lee Says:

    Comment by John Lee, Pirate News TV: Nixon’s plumbers were sabotaged at Watergate by CIA plumber James McCord, who placed the duct tape sideways over the lock so that it would remain visible to passerssby after the door was closed, AND who replaced the duct tape over the door lock after a security guard removed it. Did Jeff Gannon [aka kidnapped Johnny Gosch] get his revenge on the Bush Gang who gang-raped him, by screwing his way into the gay Bush White House, then leaking Top Secrets to Robert Novak, knowing full well this felony would be simple to prove in court and subject the Bush Gang to arrest for treason…?

    BUSH & CO. FACING PROSECUTION

    by Sherman H. Skolnick
    SkolnicksReport.com
    Cloak and Dagger Radio
    August 5, 2005

    History repeats. Yet, some in the younger generations do not have the time or patience to look back.

    In the fall of 1973, a Special Prosecutor, on the track of the Watergate Affair, had compiled witnesses and evidence, which some contend was leading to the prosecution of President Richard M. Nixon for various Federal Criminal offenses.

    Nixon had two options:

    (A) He could have his attorneys put together a lawyer-like defense, based supposedly on the law and the facts. [As a stooge and scapegoat for the ultra-rich, he might do that. His bosses, the Ruling Elite, however, rely instead on the Big Fix, blackmail, terror, bribery, political murder.]

    (B) Whatever presidential power Nixon supposed he had, he might use to “chop off the heads” of the prosecutorial team—all of them.

    The result was called “The Saturday Night Massacre”. After August, 1974, when Nixon resigned facing Impeachment, some smaller newspapers carried the statement of the Foreman of a Federal Grand Jury. The Grand Jury, he said, had voted True Bills, Federal Criminal Indictments, against Nixon. But, the Justice Department warned the Foreman and the Grand Jurors, that if the indictment was released, they would be greatly harmed and the federal authorities would not protect them, according to the Foreman.

    Connecting the dots might show what choices the Occupant and Resident of the White House, George W. Bush, has, if at all.

    1. For several years we have been researching and investigating bribery and other malign influences used to procure from a Five-Judge majority of the U.S. Supreme Court the arbitrary and corrupt ruling, December, 2000, installing by way of the case of Bush versus Gore, a fictitious president into the Oval Office.

    One of the four dissenting judges, John Paul Stevens, issued the most blistering Dissenting Opinion ever made by a high court judge.

    On the other hand, dissenting Judge Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the subject of threats by the Five, deleted from her Dissenting Opinion certain revealing matters.

    2. The kingpin of the infamous Five was Judge Antonin Scalia. He and three judges in the federal appeals court in Chicago, U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit, one step below the high court in Washington, three were professors together and one was law school dean at Rockefeller’s University of Chicago Law School.

    These four Rockefeller judges, while on the bench, continue to represent the several billion dollar investment portfolio of Rockefeller’s University of Chicago. Included are stocks of major corporations whose litigation is ruled upon by these judges who do not disqualify themselves. Further, by failing to reveal this, these judges violate a federal law requiring a mandatory annual judicial disclosure of income which these judges sign subject to the penalties of perjury.

    Particularly arrogant is Judge Scalia. In the law trade he is known as a “Go To Hell Judge”.

    3. In December, 2000, presenting the position of George W. Bush in the high court case of Bush versus Gore, was Theodore B. Olson, at the time, a private law partner of Eugene Scalia, son of Judge Scalia. Some contend Olson is a “court bagman” in Washington and in the Federal Courthouse in Chicago.

    After George W. Bush was thus installed, Olson was made the Solicitor General. In that capacity, he perverted an intellectual property case in the High Court which benefited Mickey Mouse—Disney—by extending their Copyright 75 years, worth many billions of dollars. Funds from Disney and Coca-Cola were involved in corrupting the Unholy Five on the High Court.

    In the 9-11 matter, there is a serious controversy whether Olson’s estranged wife Barbara (with whom he apparently had not spoken to for some time) actually spoke from a supposed hi-jacked plane directly to Theodore B. Olson. Was it actually a conversation with a call center operator? Was the American CIA involved? Some think so.

    Some continue to aver that Barbara Olson did not perish and has a plastic surgeon new face and a wig. And. moreover, that she is parked in seclusion in an Embassy in Sweden. If so. her emergence some day would pulverize the fake story of 9-11 “Moslem terrorists” like the internal planted explosives that took down the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center.

    4. On my website, http://www.skolnicksreport.com, is an extensive series, “Coca-Cola, CIA, and the Courts”, in part relating to the corruption of the infamous Five on the High Court in Bush versus Gore. Documented there is how Homeland Security and the FBI run a warehouse separate from the U.S. Supreme Court Building. A box of documents sent by registered mail and addressed to one of the dissenting Judges was unlawfully there blocked by the American Gestapo.

    Instead the documents were sent to a secret federal tribunal supposedly considering misdeeds and corruption of federal judges. Such tribunals keep no name on the matters submitted to them, no public docket, no results, if any, are publicly disclosed. [Yes, there are such secret tribunals. See parts 9 and 10 of the Coca-Cola series.]

    5. A tiny portion of our investigation of the High Court corruption, without mentioning us at all by name, became the subject of a lengthy story in Vanity Fair Magazine, October, 2004 issue. Following this was a forty minute segment about this on the Terri Gross Show on National Public Radio.

    Risking their future career, some of the law clerks of the Dissenting four judges in Bush versus Gore reportedly stole private secret records of the Infamous Five showing the malign influence worked on the Judges in installing Bush. Instead of investigating the Five High Court Judicial criminals, Homeland Security and the FBI have been threatening and inflicting harm on the Dissenting Four High Court Judges and their brave law clerks.

    6. For the first time in memory, an out-of-town prosecutor was brought in to be the new U.S. Attorney in Chicago. Unlike previous Chicago U.S. Attorneys, Fitzgerald was not one of the local political crowd who hope to leave federal office after a few years and join the corporate gangsters who while prosecutor were protected.. Patrick Fitzgerald was also named as the Special Prosecutor in the case stemming from the outing of deep cover CIA operative Valerie Plame. Her husband. former U.S. Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson 4th, was dispatched to the tiny African nation of Niger to find out whether Saddam Hussein was buying yellow cake, that is, uranium, from Niger. Who bothered to note that Iraq has their own ample supply of uranium not used for developing nuclear weapons?

    Upon return, Wilson publicly criticized George W. Bush for the fake story about Saddam getting Niger yellow cake.

    7. Valerie Plame headed a vast team of more than one hundred covert agents. Some of them were penetration agents, secretly inserted in countries considered by the U.S. as unfriendly in Africa, the Mid-East, and elsewhere.

    Also part of her team were upwards of three dozen, or more, biochemists among other things, studying for or against how to use pandemics to minimize “excess population” , that is kill off mere eaters who supposedly do not produce anything “useful”.

    Several of these biochemists were purportedly adjuncts of various foreign counter-intelligence agencies. Since Plame’s covert operations cover was blown, several dozen of these biochemists were murdered. A mere coincidence? One of those biochemists murdered, as ordered by Tony Blair for the benefit of George Bush, was Dr. David Kelly, purportedly also with British Counter-Intelligence, MI-6.

    8. Overseas, facilities of Coca-Cola act as an American CIA proprietary firm. Covert espionage agents use Coca-Cola’s offices and plants as a cover, a place to conveniently hang their hats. The vast Coca-Cola money flow has been used to return to the U.S. to corrupt the High Court case of Bush versus Gore and other high-level litigation.

    The Chief Federal Prosecutor in Atlanta, Coke’s headquarters, began digging into allegations that Coca-Cola’s upper brass were “cooking the books” sort of like Enron. Understanding it was a good time to get out, many of Coke’s upper management quit.

    The Atlanta Prosecutor perhaps feared forbidden matters would come out at a trial. Such as that the Coke “book cooking” matters related to the malign influence on the Unholy Five on the High Court in Bush versus Gore. A less than brave prosecutor might jeopardize his career making such matters public.

    So instead of a trial there was a settlement. How many incriminating Coke documents were dumped into the Atlanta Prosecutor’s shredding machine? How many witnesses were told to “Get lost”? What did the Atlanta Prosecutor do with the load of documents we made available to him?

    9. A question remains. Did Valerie Plame, or her husband, know that a sizeable portion of the funds for her team’s operations worldwide were funneled through American CIA proprietary Coca-Cola? And that the funds corrupted the High Court?

    10. Under the supervision of Chicago Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, several federal grand juries have been examining the route of the release of the information that Valerie Plame was a deep cover CIA operative. outing her being a federal criminal offense.

    ===A male prostitute, Jeff Gannon [kidnapped Johnny Gosch], a reputed journalist, attended George W. Bush press conferences, apparently without having been cleared by the Secret Service and the FBI. Gannon asked Bush “soft ball” questions. There is reason to believe that “Gannon” is actually Johnny Gosch who disappeared or was kidnapped at age 12 and made part of a ring of teen age prostitutes arranged by pedophile Daddy Bush. Omaha. Chicago, District of Columbia.

    In recent years, on one-day passes, Gannon visited George W. Bush’s White House apartment some 200 times, according to U.S. Secret Service records which do not note if Gannon left each time after one day.

    Available to one or more federal grand juries have been witnesses who support the contentions that Bush himself gave directly to Gannon data as to the deep cover secret role of Valerie Plame; and that Gannon reportedly proceeded to distribute such data to various mass media people and others.

    === Another grand jury line of inquiry has been that George W, Bush divulged Plame CIA details to Vice President Richard Cheney and that Cheney, in turn, made the information and documents available to his Chief of Staff, “Scooter” Libby tightly entangled with international swindler Marc Rich (alias Reich) and Israeli intelligence, The Mossad. Libby, in turn, made the details known to NBC “Meet The Press” faker Tim Russert but Russert disputes this route. Marc Rich about 1985, with the illegal aid of then Vice President Daddy Bush, fled the U.S.for Zug, Switzerland, just as a federal criminal indictment was about to fall on Rich accusing him of a billion dollar swindle.

    At the last minutes of the Clinton administration, in 2001, Mark Rich bribed Bill and Hillary Clinton a reputed one million dollars to pardon Rich, the Clintons being urged to do so because of Marc Rich’s work in washing spy funds through the Chicago markets for the unlawful benefit of certain high-level criminals in Israel and elsewhere.

    11. From time to time, over the years, Federal Prosecutors in presenting witnesses and evidence behind closed doors, develop problems. Usually, a U.S. District Judge, in secret, is asked to assist. It becomes partly public only rarely when the matter goes on appeal, with a heavily redacted appeal record to the federal appeals court.

    Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald was led to believe that, because of her background, Chicago District Judge Joan Humphrey Lefkow might assist in secretly resolving some of the grand jury problems centered on George W. Bush facing federal criminal prosecution. She, together with the one who later became her husband, early in their careers, they became a team stationed in Indonesia for the American CIA. They were there in the oil-soaked island nation at a time when, at the behest of CIA, one hundred fifty thousand natives were slaughtered on the unproven charges they were “Communists”.

    As we have in previous postings detailed, the FBI no longer were tight with, and using as pals, the traditional Italian and Sicilian mafia. The Bureau preferred to protect the Russian mafiya, particularly so in Chicago where the Bureau is entangled with the Russian mafiya and uses them for FBI dirty business

    The FBI refuses to take action against the Russian mafiya’s activities in the Chicago-area in peddling stolen credit cards, superior quality counterfeit paper money, and the Russians, primarily Jews as traitors to their tribe, run the Red Light District with impunity; and the Russian mafiya has taken over the Federal Judge bribery rackets in the Dirksen Building, site of the Chicago Bankruptcy Court, the Chicago U.S. District Court, and the U.S. Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit (appeals from Wisconsin, Illinois, and Indiana).

    The Russian mafiya as well has taken over the dirty business of buying and selling Chicago Federal Judgeships, an enterprise formerly engaged in by the traditional mafia. [Visit the series, "Coca-Cola, CIA, and The Courts"]

    Judge Lefkow and her husband had a bad conflict of interest. however, which apparently interfered with any aid she might be in unknotting grand jury problems behind closed doors. The Judge and her husband had somehow fallen in with the Russian mafiya. Near to the Judge’s residence is the Russian Martial Arts Center which somehow boasts on their website and elsewhere that they train U.S. and Russian personnel to be available to the Russian bloody tricks secret political police and commandoes, namely the Spitznaz. Taught for such service is how to subdue enemies with mind-control or to kill enemies with your hands, without using guns.

    In February, 2005, Judge Lefkow’s mother and husband were found in the Judge’s residence brutally murdered. As is their rotten habit, the FBI blamed it all on a “lone assassin”, a sometime electrician, a Polish immigrant. The FBI conveniently disregarded the closed circuit video operating in the alley behind various other houses, showing the faces of known Russian mafiya killers, pals of the Chicago FBI and some U.S. Marshals, breaking into the rear of the judge’s residence.

    12. One or more of the grand juries have concluded their probe and have voted True Bills, Federal Criminal indictments, against George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, “Scooter” Libby, Condoleeza Rice, and Theodore B. Olson; and several media people not previously mentioned in the monopoly press as implicated. Shown as unindicted co-conspirators are two Judges on the U.S. Supreme Court, William Rehnquist and Antonin Scalia, who are among the Gang of Five also in Bush versus Gore.

    Because of the horrendous consequences involved, the Indictments are suppressed and there may be an extended delay until they appear on the Chicago Federal Court open records.

    13. The substance of the details in this story have been confirmed to us as being true and correct by high government officials, with spotless records, of the U.S., Canada, and Europe.

    14. To distract from the impending release of the indictments and the naming of the unindicted co-conspirators, the Bush White House has caused deadly rumors to circulate.

    Such as, that the FBI is tracking in the District of Columbia and elsewhere that certain supposed “terrorists” have suitcase dirty nukes ready to set off in D.C.

    Such as, that Bush will declare Martial Law and suspend Habeas Corpus, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Such as the U.S. will be wracked with financial and domestic anarchy as Bush seeks asylum in Brazil, or Australia, or elsewhere overseas.

    MORE COMING. STAY TUNED.

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